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Last Call for "Experts"

(originally launched into cyberspace on 04/22/2003)

Dear List Subscriber,

If you or someone you know understand and agrees with the 861 evidence AND
has tax- or law-related credentials (CPA, EA, ex-IRS, attorney, etc.), let
me know as soon as possible. We have a nice collection already for an
uncoming project, but I wanted to give a quick "last call" in case anyone
else wants to pile on. (I can give those interested more details.) So if
any of you credentialled-folk want your name to be on what I believe will be
the "straw that breaks the camel's back"--or maybe the anvil that squishes
the annoying leech--to end the "income tax" fraud once and for all, now is
the time to speak up.

For all the NON-credentialled folk (like me), it won't be long before you'll
have a chance to thrash this fraud too, but this first step requires people
with credentials that will impress the general public (and we have a nice
collection already).


Larken Rose
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Other Stuff

(originally launched into cyberspace on 04/21/2003)

Dear List Subscriber,

(I said I wouldn't be sending as many e-mails for a while; I didn't say I
wouldn't be sending ANY.)

So many people having been asking me about "other things"--things that have
some relation to the income tax, but aren't about what the LAW says is
taxable--that I thought I'd address a couple of them here.


1) "Replacement" tax. There is talk about replacing the income tax with
some other tax (whether it be a national sales tax, a flat income tax, or a
flying wombat tax).

Some suggest that this is Congress' way to sneak out of the crash of the
"income tax" deception; to switch the tax before the general public knows
they have been duped. I don't give Congress that much credit for being
knowledgeable or competent. First, I highly doubt they KNOW there is
anything they have to sneak out of. A few of them probably do, but with the
HUGE amount of social engineering control they get through the tax code (as
MISapplied by the IRS), they are NOT going to give it up willingly if they
think they have a choice.

Talking about scrapping the income tax is nothing new. Heck it was Bill
Archer's MAIN claim to fame when he became head of the House Ways and Means
committee in 1994. He was going to "tear it out by the roots," remember?
So what actually happened? NOTHING. They say what people want to hear in
order to get votes. Then they do what they have to to maximize their power.
If you're HOPING for a new "replacement" tax, don't hold your breath. If
you're hoping it DOESN'T happen, don't worry. It won't.

We don't need to "replace" a tax that MISSES most of us. We need the
"income tax" enforced AS WRITTEN, not a new tax that may try to hit us all.
Incidentally, no matter what Congress CALLS the tax, they do NOT have
Constitutional jurisdiction to impose an all-encompassing tax on all
commerce in the 50 states. (That's why they couldn't and didn't impose an
"income tax" on all such commerce.) They can do a really broad, apportioned
"direct" tax, or they can impose "indirect" excises, which are taxes on
CERTAIN commodities, activities, or privileges. ("Trading stuff" can't be
the subject of an excise any more than "making money" could be.)

What scares me is that if we DO get a "replacement" tax, it will be IN
ADDITION to the (misapplied) "income tax." "No, no, part of the bill is to
abolish the income tax!" Oh, really? And since when is Congress unable to
CHANGE its own legislation? Here is how it WILL go, if we get a new
National Nightmare Tax (of any flavor):

1st: "Yippee! This new tax will be better, fairer, and no more IRS!"
2nd: "We're still phasing in the new one, but then no more IRS!"
3rd: "Well darn, we CAN'T do away with the income tax just now, because..."
4th: "Sorry, but due to budget problems, the income tax has to stay too."

Then what will you do? Oops. Do you really believe Congress when they
"promise" to give up power? I hope not. If you want TWO pain-in-the-neck
taxes (one or more being misapplied), then advocate a national sales tax, or
some other "replacement" tax. Whatever new beast they create, they will
KEEP the old one too, whatever they "promise" to the contrary. (Go look up
how they PROMISED that the "income tax" would NEVER apply to anyone other
than the super-rich.)

I seem to recall that some state did something similar, implementing a
"replacement" tax... and they still have BOTH the new tax, and the one it
was meant to "replace." (If any of you remember the details--which I
don't--let me know.) There is NOTHING stopping Congress from doing the same
thing. They can, and they will.


2) N.E.S.A.R.A. Frankly, I don't know how much of this alleged legislation
is even real. I've heard a bunch of different claims on both sides, and I
won't pretend to know what has actually been passed into law and what
hasn't. That claim is that it is ENACTED LAW, but that for some reason it's
secret and hasn't been implemented. Huh? Your guess is as good as mine.

Aside from what the legislation actually says (if anything), some things
that the advocates of NESARA are saying worries me. They claim it will
abolish the IRS, the Federal Reserve, and some other nasty things. (So far
it sounds nice.) They also claim it will forgive all credit card and
mortgage debts, and will "force" the President and Vice President to resign,
to be replaced by a NESARA-approved Prez and Vice-Prez. There is also talk
of the U.N. forcing the implementation of NESARA.

I hate to burst anyone's bubble, but where the heck does that fit in with
the legal system as described in the Constitution? If you want change to
come from OUTSIDE of a legal system, it's called a "revolution" (which I'm
not even condemning). But how do you "legally" change things by means of
something completely foreign to the whole system? For example, where the
heck does the Constitution allow some NESARA folks to "force" a President to
resign, and appoint their own? Huh? (I don't care if you like Mr. Bush, or
WISH he was out; I'm just asking how the heck that fits inside the system
described in the Constitution.) In addition, what part of the Constitution
says that the U.N. gets to decide what is law in the U.S. of A.?? They are
about the LAST people on the planet I'd want having any input. (They are
one of the few organizations that I think is WORSE than our own Congress.)

I hate to be a party-pooper, but either NESARA is nothing more than a
distracting mythology, or it is something WORSE. How do I know? Because
those in power WANT POWER. EVERY time ANYONE in "government" has some new
"solution," it involves them getting MORE power. Why would Congress vote
away their own power? Why would the U.N. suddenly be pro-freedom? I don't
buy it. My rule of thumb is: if a politician or a "government" is selling

(I can already feel the hate mail flowing in response to this one, because I
know a lot of people view NESARA as salvation from lots of government


So now you have my thoughts on those... whether you wanted them or not.


Larken Rose
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Fishing for Experts

(originally launched into cyberspace on 04/20/2003)

Dear List Subscriber,

I'm looking (again) for credentialled folk who want to be involved in the
"top secret" weapon under construction now. The requirements are:

1) You have some law or tax-related credentials, such as being an attorney,
a CPA, EA, and/or experienced tax preparer.

2) You have a decent understanding of the 861 evidence, and think it has

3) You are willing to put your NAME on something that a lot of people will
see. (Of course, you'll have to know what it IS before really agreeing to
that part.) Your message doesn't necessarily have to be "THIS IS CORRECT,"
but even just "this can't just be dismissed as frivolous." (Okay, I admit
it, I'd prefer the former.)

I know I've talked to a bunch of you who fit the bill, whose e-mails I've
managed to lose since then (GACK!). So please don't assume I already know
about you... even if I do. Just drop me a note if you're at all interested
(or might be), and I'll give you more info.


Larken Rose
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(P.S. This project does NOT involve telling people what to do, or doing
"case work," so you won't get enjoined because of it.)


(originally launched into cyberspace on 04/20/2003)

Dear List Subscriber,

Just to clarify, my last e-mail was asking for PRO-861 "credentialled" folk.
I often ask for people who want to try to argue AGAINST it (and I will be
doing that again soon), but this was looking for those who understand and
AGREE with the 861 evidence already. Sorry I didn't make that clearer.


Larken Rose
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The Fruitcake Factor

(originally launched into cyberspace on 04/18/2003)

Dear List Subscriber,

First, I want to pre-warn you not to bother blowing a gasket over the e-mail
below. His frothing doesn't bother me, and he isn't worth the effort it
takes to be annoyed. I was just about to use a different e-mail
(complaining that, while the person thinks I'm right, I should "get a life"
and not spend so much time on this) to make a point about how the issue IS
getting out there. It may sound odd, but I didn't like the almost complete
lack of "hate mail" I got in the last few years. It indicated that we were
mostly reaching allies, but not the general public. A moviestar doesn't
count as famous until he/she has a lunatic stalker or two, and gets lots of
hate mail. So I guess the message below means we're finally getting out to
the masses... including the asses in the masses. So this is a good sign.
[Smile] The message is now getting all over the place.

(P.S. If anyone in Michigan needs an anti-semitic, ranting, irrational,
violent pyscho for doing lock work, feel free to look him up.)

(P.P.S. I know there are a lot of very supportive former and current Marines
and other military folk on this list, and I don't want to give the
impression that THIS guy is representative of those in the armed forces,
many of whom REMEMBER that they swore to defend the CONSTITUTION from
enemies foreign and domestic.)


SURELOCKHOMES <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.> writes:
(From a message titled "You are a jew and unamerican as they come")
> You in my opinion are trying to capitalize
> off of other americans. This is an absolute
> fact.

Let's review, shall we?...

1) I spent four YEARS telling people the truth about the tax laws, without
selling ANYTHING (while working full time to make a living).

2) ALL of my conclusions are still available for FREE in written form at

3) To try to make the issue more understandable, I spent over a YEAR making
the "Theft By Deception" video (while still having to earn a living), which
required my partner to invest at least $30,000 in up front computer,
software, and printing costs. The video sells for $20, and that is the ONLY
thing I sell related to taxes.

> And for doing this, you are the most
> unamerican person I could ever hear
> about.

Selling something is unAmerican? I suppose you perform all your services
for free?

> I was a United States Marine for 6 years
> and had a code of honor to america and
> to my fellow patriots.

Even though you hate capitalism, the law, the truth, and those who don't
look like you? How American of you.

> Hear you are trying to make money off of
> fellow patriots and Americans.

If a "fellow patriot" needs lock work done, I suppose you do it for free?

> In my opinion you are a total disgrace
> and if ever given the oportunity to
> war against you I certainly would. You
> are filth in the highest degree.

It's nice to see that someone who SWORE TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION is so
eager to do war against someone trying to see to it that it is obeyed.

> As far as income taxes, they are all
> illegal, but when I see trash like you,
> I will voice my opinion to every group
> on the web.

It's nice to see you also know nothing about the law. Maybe if you had
invested the whopping budget-busting cost of $20, you wouldn't be saying
taxes are "illegal" anymore.

[I'm leaving out his last line, since my mom reads these messages.]

> Michael B. Saari

Since you are so keen on making your opinion be known, I'll help you out by
forwarding your message (and my response) to my 2600-member update list.


Larken Rose
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[ June 23, 2003, 07:39 AM: Message edited by: 3rdEar ]

Lull in the Battle

(originally launched into cyberspace on 04/18/2003)

Dear List Subscriber,

After sending you about a zillion e-mails recently, things will probably
slow down a bunch over the next month or so. I'll be hiding in an
underground bunker, constructing a top secret weapon. Well... sort of.
Something is in the works (no, not the kind of thing that blows stuff up),
and I'm putting most other things on hold until it's done, because I believe
it will be the BEST tool yet for spreading the truth about the income tax.
So if you don't hear from me much for a while, it's not because I gave up or
"got suicided," or got censored. Enjoy the nice weather, avoid the
extortionists as best you can, and get ready for the home stretch that will
(with your help) finally END this fraud.


Larken Rose
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P.S. In my prior message, responding to the guy calling me an unAmerican
Jew, I didn't bother to mention that I'm not Jewish. I didn't mention it
because it didn't matter then, and it doesn't matter now. (Anyone who is
pro-freedom and anti-tyranny is "my kinda people.") But for those who
wonder (for whatever reason), now you know.